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Questions from the Cockpit: Dense about density altitude

By William E. Dubois · February 19, 2020 ·

Franklyn, a sport pilot from Arizona, writes: Call me dense, but I’m having a hard time sorting out one element of density altitude. I get that when it’s hot, the air around us (and our airplanes) expands and acts as if it’s higher. I understand how that negatively affects the lift our wings generate, the power our engines produce, and the thrust our props can bite out of the air. So it makes sense to me that our takeoff roll is longer, and our climb performance sucks.

But what I don’t get is why the landing roll is longer. With the plane performing so poorly, shouldn’t landing distance be shorter? Shouldn’t it just plop on the runway and stop flying? Help me get a handle on this!

True confession: When first I read your question, I too, found myself scratching my head for a few minutes. We all know that airplanes fly worse the higher they go, although I personally experienced the phenomena in reverse.

William E. Dubois’ plane is a 1947 Erco Ercoupe 415 CD. (Photo by Lisa F. Bentson)

The first time I took Race 53 from our mile-high base down to an airport at sea level she flew like she never flew before, at least in my experience. At the flare, she floated down the runway. And floated. And floated. And floated. About the time I was contemplating a go around, she finally kissed the pavement. If we’d been competing in a spot landing contest, we’d’a been screwed. 

In that thick air, she just didn’t want to stop flying — very different from what I was used to, where convincing her to fly at all was the trick. My other great surprise was how crazy-short all the runways at lower elevations were. I was used to a mile of pavement at even the smallest of airports in my high elevation part of the country, where you need a lot of runway to get off the ground into the thin air.

But, of course, you also need a lot of runway to get back down again at higher elevations.

We need look no farther than the performance charts of any general aviation aircraft to see that landing rolls increase with altitude: Be that altitude in feet above the oceans or in feet of density altitude.

What’s up with that? Why do planes that really don’t want to fly any more, or are flying poorly — either due to heat or height — need more landscape to land on? I grant you, it does seem counter-intuitive.

And the explanation for this is that, even though your plane is not happy, it’s flying a heck of a lot faster than it’s telling you. Yep. Your airspeed indicator is a lying sack of s–t.

Airspeed Indicator (FAA photo).

I’m sure that you recall that the speed indicated on your airspeed indicator is pure fiction 99.9% of the time. It only shows you how fast you’re really going if you’re flying a float plane an inch above the surface of the sea on a standard day, which is defined as a barometric pressure of 29.92 at 59° Fahrenheit, a temperature rarely seen on the beaches I like to visit at sea level.

As you go higher in the atmosphere, or as the day gets warmer, the airspeed indicator shows a slower speed than the speed you are truly plying the air.

As a rule of thumb, the airspeed indictor is “off” by about 2% per 1,000′. In a 100-knot airplane flying at 10,000′, we can expect to see an airspeed indication of 80 knots.

Put another way, you are flying 20% faster than you think you are. Hold on to that thought. I’ll come back to it in a moment.

Now, thanks to an irony of aerodynamics, the airspeed indicator error doesn’t matter. That’s because the V-speeds we use to set up landings, deploy flaps, and keep us safe from stalls, also change with altitude.

As the air gets thinner — either from its height above the world’s oceans or from expansion due to heat — all of our operational speeds increase to compensate for the decreased density.

The miracle is that the amount of this increase is roughly equivalent to the degree of false-low reading on the airspeed indicator, thus approach and landing speeds appear to be the “same” no matter if we are landing at Furnace Creek in Death Valley (elevation -210′) or Lake County in Leadville, Colorado (elevation 9,993′).

Furnace Creek Airport in Death Valley, elevation -210’. (Photo courtesy AOPA)

Yes, we are being fooled, but in a good way. But when it comes to the landing roll, our planes are not as easily fooled as we are.

Remember that example above, where we’re zipping along at 100 knots, even though the airspeed indictor says we’re going 80? Let’s just pretend for a moment that this same plane also has a final approach speed of 80 knots. Of course, in our fictional 10K density altitude example, when your tires kiss the ground at 80 indicated, you are actually rocketing down the runway at 100 knots.

Is it any wonder we need more runway to land in thin air? It really has nothing to do with how doggy the plane is flying. It’s simply flying faster than it’s telling you it is.

And it’s this increase of speed — well, more correctly, the decrease in indicated airspeed — that stretches our landing distance by about 3.5% per 1,000′ in altitude, either MSL or density altitude.

So there you have it: When you are landing hot, even though the plane isn’t performing at its best, you really are landing hot! And that takes a lot of runway.

William E. Dubois is a commercial pilot, ground instructor, and air racer who loves flying to lower elevations so that his airspeed indictor gives more impressive readings.

About William E. Dubois

William E. Dubois is a NAFI Master Ground Instructor, commercial pilot, two-time National Champion air racer, a World Speed Record Holder, and a FAASTeam Representative.

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  1. Dr. P.F. Crosetto (Pete) says

    February 23, 2020 at 6:28 pm

    Obviously Mr. Dubois loves to expound at nauseum. A simple sentence or two can answer the question clearly and concisely. When taking off in thin air, whether from altitude or heat or both, you have to go faster to get enough air molecules going over your wings to get airborne. The same phenomenon holds true when landing in thin air. You have to maintain a higher than normal landing speed to keep a sufficient amount of the thin air flowing over your wings to keep from dropping out of the sky. Naturally, landing at a higher speed will require a longer roll out. Simple as that.

    Now, if you want to go into all the details as to why you may not realize all this is happening, they have to do with your airspeed indicator. It operates on its reaction to the amount of air pressure created in your pitot tube. When operating in thin air you have to go faster to get more air entering the tube but your indicated air speed will indicate what your plane “thinks” it’s doing even though it’s ground speed is elevated. It’s being fooled by the thin air.

  2. Dale Rust Dale Rust says

    February 22, 2020 at 5:16 pm

    Not sure what “brakes and heat” have to do with it .. but the simple answer to the longer landing rollout is simply due to the higher ground speed (i.e., higher T.A.S. which translates into higher ground speed which translates into longer rollout .. and, oh yes .. it most likely will translate into warmer brakes after rollout.

    But remember .. a ‘high’ density altitude (I don’t think they use that misleading term anymore) .. really means the air is actually LESS DENSE .. got that ?? .. The ‘describing adjective’ .. “high” really is describing the altitude ..

    tas

  3. leslie g taylor says

    February 20, 2020 at 4:35 pm

    Dose anyone sell a(n) (aircraft) type specific D.A. slide rule that that translates all the factors into a required runway length? Sportys used to, but it’s no longer in the catalogue

    • James Macklin says

      February 22, 2020 at 5:44 am

      Program a scientific calculator with the formulas and put fixed data such as. EW in as constants and variable such as passgengers, cargo, airport conditions in as labels.
      But keep in mind that your plane and engine in your hands may not perform like a similar brand new plane just out of the factory shop with smooth waxed wings, a perfectly tuned engine and a team of engineers do I m vs the math.
      If all your calculations say 3200 feet required for TO to 60 ft. and climb performance says you can clear the redwood 300 ft Teresa 1/2 mile away Add some fudge factor.

  4. Javier Lifa says

    February 20, 2020 at 8:54 am

    In the old 727 days, airlines flying into El Alto airport in La Paz, Bolivia (14K ft ASL) fitted their airplanes with special, higher-speed tires that could handle the higher roll speeds at take-off and landing.

    • Bill says

      February 21, 2020 at 2:45 pm

      Regarding the DENSITY, Ask yourself this question using this accromyn .. “On the flight I am about to take under xyz conditions,
      how will it affect my BEP-W
      BRAIN (uses O2 )
      ENGINE (uses O2)
      PROPELLER (uses air)
      WING (uses air)
      BEP-W accromyn developed by William Hill April 2017

  5. Cary Alburn says

    February 20, 2020 at 7:12 am

    The easy answer is that your ground speed at high DA landings is much faster than your indicated airspeed. Watch my video landing at Marble, CO, several years ago, in my 1963 Cessna P172D. The DA at the 7800’ elevation airstrip was about 9800’. Look how fast I’m landing, yet my IAS was about +/- 65 mph/55 knots.

    https://youtu.be/iGAN6pDYt_4

    • Ws says

      August 15, 2020 at 9:11 am

      That tailwind, as indicated by the wind sock might have also played a part in the long landing.

  6. James Macklin says

    February 20, 2020 at 5:47 am

    The brakes absorb energy and turn it into heat. The energy on landing/stopping increases by the true speed squared.
    At sea level 70 knots is 70 knots’ under standard conditions. At 8,000 feet 70 IAS is 79 KTAS. 13% faster. Applying E=V^2 which means the brakes must absorb almost 30% more heat. The higher heat reduces brake and tire friction too.
    Brakes have a limit on how much heat the can absorb before failure.
    ALWAYS LAND INTO THE WIND because it reduces actual velocity of the ground.

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