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Routine training flight is anything but

By NASA · May 2, 2023 ·

This is an excerpt from a report made to the Aviation Safety Reporting System. The narrative is written by the pilot, rather than FAA or NTSB officials. To maintain anonymity, many details, such as aircraft model or airport, are often scrubbed from the reports.

I was conducting a routine training flight with my student in a Cessna 172. The lesson for the day called for short/soft field takeoff/landing practice, and we opted to fly south to nearby ZZZ from our home airport ZZZ1 to practice.

After a few uneventful laps in the pattern using Runway XX with one other aircraft in the pattern with us (wind favoring XX as well as YR/ZZL being closed at the time) a Piper Cherokee joined the pattern to make three total in the pattern (including myself).

The Cherokee, which appears to be from a local flight club at the airport, taxied to Runway XX shortly after we landed on our third lap. As we pulled off, the Cherokee took off from XX uneventfully and we began our taxi back to Runway XX.

As we taxied, ADS-B data showed the Cherokee turning right and joining a pattern for YR, the closed runway.

Shortly before we reached XX, I asked the Cherokee their position, to which they did not answer. Shortly after, they reported right base for Runway XX.

Holding short of XX and ready to go after clearing the area of traffic, my student commenced the takeoff, believing we had more than enough time with the aircraft just beginning a right base. ADS-B showed they were still around the YR upwind pattern area, and I believed the data to be wrong as it sometimes glitches, and the runway was closed with big Xs on both ends, as well as the pilot reported a right base for the runway in use, XX.

Shortly after full power was applied, to my horror, I look up and see the Cherokee on short final for Runway AA, the opposite runway.

I immediately aborted the takeoff, and urgently called for the wrong way traffic to go around. I had nowhere to exit the runway due to my position between the taxiways, but was ready to pull the airplane off the side of the runway to avoid the collision.

Thankfully the traffic went around, and shortly after said “My Bad,” and we exited the runway.

The other aircraft in the pattern with us was also astonished by the actions of the Cherokee. I would estimate the near miss to be around 300-400 feet.

After almost causing a collision, the Cherokee pilot began erratic flight just north of the airport at a low altitude, so much so other aircraft asked if they were OK. They also announced they were joining the pattern again following the incident, but would fly away back north of the airport.

The pilot operated the aircraft in an extremely unsafe manner and almost caused a wrong way collision.

As an instructor, the incident was a good “double check” learning experience. Even though the pilot reported one thing, other data had a discrepancy on the report.

Primary Problem: Airport

ACN: 1959318

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  1. Tom Curran says

    May 3, 2023 at 9:00 am

    The CFI/Writer knew there was another plane in the pattern.

    The CFI knew that other plane was already doing something sort of wonky…

    The CFI didn’t trust ADS-B…
    “ADS-B showed they were still around the YR upwind pattern area, and I believed the data to be wrong…”

    So they actually never saw the other airplane…yet the CFI let the student commence their takeoff roll after “clearing the area”. Without actually clearing the area.

    “Primary Problem: Airport”?
    I don’t think so.

    • Bibocas says

      May 3, 2023 at 11:32 am

      Precisely,

  2. Mac says

    May 3, 2023 at 8:02 am

    I was sitting at the hold short of 32 waiting to back taxi to 14. Someone announced they were 10 west inbound for 14. I announced I was going to back taxi to 14 and proceeded to do so. I was watching for the inbound traffic and to my surprise he was doing a straight in and was much closer than expected. I think his 10 mile estimate was more like 5 miles. Increase taxi speed and got out of the way.
    Day time and he had his landing light on, so that helped me see him.
    This is a long runway with no taxi way.

  3. Wylbur Wrong says

    May 3, 2023 at 6:47 am

    Too much info has been effectively redacted by “Runway XX”, “YR/ZZL” and “Runway AA”.

    So I can understand how the CFI and their student ended up going the wrong way on runway WW. Or was that ZZL? Maybe the PICs of all three aircraft needed to go to a meeting at AA: Hi, I’m a pilot have been flying for x years and don’t understand the runway layouts.

    I hope you understand the attempt at humor here, but this obfuscation is confusing and is not protecting anyone. And these kinds of reports seem to me to be more CYA in case there is some investigation.

  4. James Brian Potter says

    May 3, 2023 at 6:30 am

    Sleep deprivation? Drugs? Alcohol? Combination thereof? On the ground, were that kind of behavior observed by a cop, that driver would be stopped, ticketed, possibly arrested after a breath test, then maybe have his/her license suspended. Wish we had that kind of law enforcement in the air. In this incident precious lives came within a few hundred feet of being lost in a flaming mess. Alas.

    Regards/J

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