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Training flight provides lessons to both CFI and student

By NASA · May 9, 2023 ·

This is an excerpt from a report made to the Aviation Safety Reporting System. The narrative is written by the pilot, rather than FAA or NTSB officials. To maintain anonymity, many details, such as aircraft model or airport, are often scrubbed from the reports.

This was a training flight coming back to ZZZ from ZZZ1. Me and my student, who was under foggles for instrument time, picked up VFR flight following shortly after taking off from ZZZ1. We were under our own navigation, maintaining 4500 only a few miles from the shore around the 230 radial from ZZZ VOR.

ZZZ Approach notified us of a Caravan at our “9 o’clock” and climbing. I let ZZZ know that I did not have traffic in sight.

I began scanning for this traffic and could not find the aircraft. I looked at the ADSB-In receiver to help find this traffic and saw no traffic to our 9 o’clock. I continued to look for another minute or so before I checked the ADSB-In and found that there was an aircraft at our 6 o’clock and climbing.

I still did not see the aircraft.

I zoomed in on the receiver and saw that the aircraft was directly under us by 400 feet. I looked below us on the left side of the cowling and saw the Caravan.

I took control and started a turn to the right to make a 360 and at the same time ZZZ advised that we should make a right turn to a 360 heading. There were no further problems with the rest of the flight.

I realize that I should not rely so much on Approach Control and flight following to steer clear of other aircraft. That is the job of the pilots to maintain visual separation from other aircraft.

Additionally, my student kept their foggles on during this event, and now I have learned that they could have been a valuable resource for situational awareness. The Caravan was passing under us on the pilot side of the aircraft, and if I would have instructed my student to take off their foggles to help look, we could have avoided this situation.

Lastly, when I initially noticed the aircraft at our 6 o’clock using the ADSB I could have made a corrective action as to not fly in the same direction as the Caravan.

I will learn from this flight and use my newfound knowledge to be a safer pilot and instructor.

Primary Problem: Human Factors

ACN: 1956702

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Comments

  1. Fred R. says

    May 17, 2023 at 10:34 am

    I just love the holier than thou comments from those who have strict opinions. In truth the best pilots that I have known are loose and easy and professional (but not stupid!) whether they are the student or the instructor. Then again some people like the hard nose approach just because.

  2. scott k patterson says

    May 10, 2023 at 5:39 am

    Crossing traffic at VFR to IFR separation.. How about that!

  3. Mark Scardino says

    May 10, 2023 at 4:50 am

    That’s aviation! We make mistakes and file them away, hopefully never to repeat them. You learned a few on this flight and realized the solutions to them. Good job.

    • Wylbur Wrong says

      May 10, 2023 at 6:48 am

      Second this.

      And, with traffic issues, and you are not in IMC, *you have to follow VFR*. So the view limiting devices have to come off for see and avoid. SOP.

      • Bibocas says

        May 10, 2023 at 2:01 pm

        I do totally agree with You, Mr. Wylbur Wrong.

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