In my last column, I did an update on the status of the 100 motor octane unleaded fuel programs by the Piston Aviation Fuels Initiative (PAFI) steering group members, as presented at Oshkosh. In this column I would like to talk about my visit with George Braly from General Aviation Modifications Inc. (GAMI) about the company’s unleaded avgas development, which is not part of the PAFI program.
Talking to the folks at GAMI is always a pleasure because they seem to understand the “show” and are doing some basic research into the actual working of an aircraft engine. By comparison, most of the other parties are just aiming at a 100 motor octane aviation fuel.
As an example, George explained that they have a 97 motor octane unleaded candidate that operates with no detectable detonation in their aircraft test engines. But they have also tested 100 and 102 motor octane candidate fuels that result in significant detonation in the same aircraft engine tests.
We discussed the many reasons for this lack of correlation between the motor octane of a fuel and its performance in actual aircraft engines.
We also agreed that this is one of the major problems with developing a new unleaded aviation fuel because pilots will automatically buy the fuel with the highest motor octane in the belief that it will perform better in their aircraft engines.
We also discussed the correlation between motor octane and the original lean rating octane number, which was correlated to actual aircraft engine detonation levels.
Many years ago, avgas sales were declining due to commercial aircraft switching over to jet engines. In an effort to reduce costs, the industry decided to stop supporting the lean rating test method and used a chart to correlate a motor octane rating test result to the lean rating.
The biggest problem here is that the industry ran a series of motor octane and lean rating tests on fuels to develop the chart that is included in the ASTM D-910 specification. The concern is that they only tested fuels made primarily from alkylate. They have never run tests to examine the correlation of the motor octane rating to the lean rating on unconventional fuels like the 100 motor octane candidate fuels.
George also asked me if knock and detonation were the same thing. I feel that they are not. Detonation is any auto ignition of end gases near or at the peak pressure during the power stroke. But if the detonation is significant enough that it caused an audible response, then it is knock.
So when is detonation or knock harmful to an engine and how do we determine where the knock limited power should be set?
If one monitors the pressure versus crank angle in an engine, you will see that the pressure goes up during the compression stroke, then goes way up with the ignition occurrence. Now if there is detonation, you will notice some small static or mini spikes at or near the peak. As the detonation increases, the size of the spikes increase until you get into knock.
So where do you rate the engine: At the first appearance of static or when the spikes get to be a certain percentage of the normal peak pressure?
The reason this is critical is that many engines — like large radials — will need to have a limited boost to prevent knocking or the engines will need to be modified.
But how do you set the limit or determine what modifications are necessary? Because of the high noise level in aircraft, you will usually not be able to hear knock until after some engine damage has occurred. And you cannot put pressure sensors in every cylinder of every engine type and operate under almost every possible condition.
It was interesting to talk to the GAMI people. They do not have all of the answers, but at least they understand that they do not have all of the answers.
Hello, Why do I still get that feeling in my gut that I get when someone is trying to scam me ?? We have been using gasoline engines for centuries and know the engines from the inside out etc. But it seems that when ever there is some kind of change to be made, it allegedly involves hundreds on man hours and the same for money. I keep coming up with the same old feeling, I still think being we already have fuels that work great in all kinds of engines it wouldn’t take much to come up with a comparable fuel.
We presently have fuels of ninety something octane that work well, just remove the ethanol. I remember years ago when we were changing over from leaded gas to unleaded gas for auto’s we were told the reason for the price increase was that it cost a lot of money to take the lead out of gas, which is a lie, auto gas is refined without lead and the lead was added after words to increase the octane, gas dose not come with lead from the fact. The fuel people do not care what kind of airplane you fly, what kind of engine you have or what kind of flying you do, what they tell their people is to come up with a fuel with the minimum octane that will work so you will burn more fuel that is needed to produce the same horse power. Bottom line more profit for the fuel producer..period..
Mr. Visser,
A historic note as to some engines needing to limit “boost”, specifically the large radials. Many of the large radial engine transports DC-3 or larger included in their operating manuals instructions and power setting charts for different grades of fuel. I worked on smaller engines primarily the P&W R-985 and R-1340, but was familiar with the R-1830 powered DC-3. Associates of mine maintained Convairs and DC-6s with the P&W R-2800 and their manuals included these charts. Our ex-military C-45,(Beech 18), also included such charts although I do not remember if the “civil” models included them.
The point is that running a reduced power on a supercharged radial to accommodate sub-grade fuel was a standard, and approved, practice. It likely would be simple to do the same for a “modern” turbocharged engine, just a change in the operating manual. Of course the operator would have to follow the proper setting for the fuel being used, the older generation of pilots and flight engineers could do that, so the current generation of pilots should be able to as well.
Thank you for the continuing updates on this matter.
Greg W
There was a time when the United Stated led the world in innovation, especially in regards to aviation.
Now the oil companies and obstinate old men who don’t want any change control aviation and we follow the Europeans. 91 UL has been approved in Europe for years now. We should have been there first, time to stop stalling.
http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All-News/2012/April/19/Lycoming-EU-bless-UL-91
Hi,
I am very interested to follow your ongoing results with this topic as I an an Engineer & Pilot.
Cheers
John Fischer