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Repeated attempts to start engine end in fire

By General Aviation News Staff · February 22, 2025 · 6 Comments

The pilot told investigators that he last flew the Piper PA-28-160 on Dec. 4, 2022, during which time the airplane started and flew with no anomalies. On Dec. 25, 2022, he was unable to start the airplane, which he attributed to the outside air temperature of -7°F in Eau Claire, Wisconsin.

On Feb. 5, 2023, the day of the accident, he attempted six engine starts before the battery died and, once the battery was recharged, he attempted an additional six engine starts before he stopped further attempts to start the engine.

He said that during each engine start attempt he applied engine primer three times and pumped the throttle control two times. The throttle control was positioned about 1/4-inch forward during each start.

At times during the start attempts, he placed the mixture control into idle cutoff and ran the engine starter.

The pilot finally gave up and he and his passengers got out of the airplane. That’s when one of the passengers saw a small flame inside the engine cowl. The pilot told the remaining passenger to move the mixture control to idle cutoff. The fuel selector was not turned to the off position.

The flames continued to spread and the airplane was destroyed by the fire.

A photo showed flames during the accident in two areas. The first area was beneath the engine and the second area was near the right aft top side of the engine by the right forward fuselage.

Examination of the engine compartment in the first area revealed that the carburetor airbox assembly and the carburetor heat assembly were consumed by fire. The fuel line leading to the carburetor was intact.

The area above the carburetor exhibited soot consistent with lower combustion temperatures above a hotter area, which lacked soot and was around the carburetor bowl.

Examination of the second area revealed a separated and thermally damaged engine primer line for the No. 3 cylinder. The remainder of the engine primer lines were intact. The area near the separated primer line did not contain a comparable amount of soot as that of the area further from the separated primer line.

Fire damage precluded determination of the fuel and ignition sources of the fire.

Probable Cause: The engine fire that began for undetermined reasons following numerous engine start attempts.

NTSB Identification: 106682

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This February 2023 accident report is provided by the National Transportation Safety Board. Published as an educational tool, it is intended to help pilots learn from the misfortunes of others.

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  1. JimH in CA says

    February 25, 2025 at 11:03 am

    Maybe this pilot should stick with the helicopters he flew. ?

    Pumping the throttle, unless during cranking, will cause the fuel to fall into the airbox, where a fire can start.
    The #1 problem on noting a fire was not shutting off the fuel!!
    Had he done that, the fire would have been contained to the engine compartment and stopped once the fuel in the carb and gascollator was consumed.
    Pulling the mixture to cutoff, did nothing.

    Using a fire extinguisher would have helped stop the fire.

    So, more stupid pilot tricks, and a destroyed aircraft.

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  2. Bob Hearst says

    February 25, 2025 at 10:14 am

    Carry a bottle !!!! ( Fire extinguisher )

    Reply
  3. Deborah King says

    February 25, 2025 at 8:20 am

    I’m old enough (74) that I remember when ALL cars had carburetors. We would never have pumped the accelerator pedal many times without expecting a very flooded engine. That’s essentially what he did! Sad ending to this poor airplane…

    Reply
  4. Cary Alburn says

    February 25, 2025 at 5:55 am

    Trying to start any aircraft engine at -7°F without preheating it is really stupid. Really!

    Reply
    • Tom Curran says

      February 25, 2025 at 8:55 am

      In this case, it may not have mattered.

      NTSB: “(Pilot) stated during a telephone conversation that he last flew N9770J
      in December 2022. The aircraft was kept inside a hangar with a Tanis Preheat System
      plugged in. On the day of the accident, the aircraft was moved out of the hangar and
      the Tanis Preheat System was disconnected prior to starting the engine.”

      Reply
  5. Scott Patterson says

    February 25, 2025 at 5:24 am

    As an owner of a fleet of various vehicles and equipment I have a standing order to employees. If something doesn’t start normally within a few cycles…Stop and let me know rather than grind the starter to death when there’s an apparent problem.

    Reply

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