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A Brief History of the Interstate S-1 Cadet

By Frederick Johnsen · October 16, 2026 · 6 Comments

The Interstate S-1 Cadet was intended from the start to serve the Civilian Pilot Training Program ramping up in the U.S. before World War II. (Photo from the John W. Underwood collection via Peter M. Bowers)

With the popularity of small cabin monoplane taildraggers like those of Piper, Aeronca, and Taylorcraft setting the tone, a new company, Interstate Aircraft and Engineering, entered the field by 1940.

Interstate’s two-place Cadet general aviation aircraft was thoroughly traditional: A high wing mounted to a welded-steel tube fuselage, all covered in fabric and powered by available air-cooled engines like the 65-horsepower Continental A65.

An S-1-A Cadet with optional wheel pants parked on the vast open spaces at Culver City, California, in June 1941. (Photo from the Peter M. Bowers collection)

Interstate, already known as a manufacturer of components for aircraft, envisioned the Cadet as a logical choice for the Civilian Pilot Training Program (CPTP) begun in 1938 in an effort to increase the pool of available fliers in America as European countries were already doing.

The first Cadets came off the line at El Segundo, California, in December 1940, marking the first production of light aircraft of this type on the west coast, according to aviation historian Joseph Juptner.

More than 300 S-1-A Cadets were delivered into 1942. S-1As used 65-, 85-, and 90-horsepower Franklin air-cooled engines, as well as 65-horsepower Continentals.

Juptner described the handling characteristics of the Cadet, designed for the rigors of new fliers in the CPTP, as being light but stable, saying it “plowed through rough air like a small freight train.”

The Interstate S-1-A with the Continental A-65 engine was 24 feet in length, with a wingspan of 35 feet, 6 inches. The wing’s NACA 23012 airfoil had a five-foot chord. Stalling speed was 36 mph. Cruising at 98 mph, the S-1-A could top out at 107 mph. It had a service ceiling of 14,500 feet. When fitted with the Franklin 85-horsepower engine, the S-1-A was said to cruise at 108. The price at the factory was listed at $2,095.

This Interstate Cadet, photographed at the Reno Sky Ranch on March 20, 1942, shows an interesting merging of markings probably representing its use in the Civilian Pilot Training Program. It bears the civil registration NC37327 on the rudder, the Interstate logo on the vertical fin, and a U.S. star insignia on the upper left wing surface. As if to remove any doubt about its nationality, large letters proclaim US on the fuselage. (Photo from the Peter M. Bowers collection)

The welded tube fuselage structure incorporated the Warren truss, a style developed for bridges in the 1800s that features equilateral triangles between horizontal members. This weight-saving load-bearing structure appears in other aircraft of the era, including the Piper Cub. The wing panels used spruce spars with built-up Alclad aluminum ribs.

This S-1-B shows the streamlined v-struts used by Interstate. The aircraft was photographed at Kent, Washington, in 1962. (Photo from the Peter M. Bowers collection)

In wartime 1942, Interstate evolved its S-1-A into the S-1-B as a civilian airplane, or the O-63 as an Army observation/liaison aircraft of the Grasshopper genre. Piper, Aeronca, Taylor, and Stinson all went to war with their own Grasshoppers. The XO-63’s Franklin engine was now rated at 100 horsepower.

The O-63 was the last Army aircraft to be identified as an O for Observation machine. Soon it and the other O-birds became L for Liaison aircraft. The Interstate version became the L-6. To accommodate the Army’s liaison and spotting missions, the L-6 embraced substantially more glazing, angled to provide a downward view for the observer and pilot.

The Interstate L-6 was an Army Liaison aircraft based on the company’s Cadet trainer. (AAF photo via the Peter M. Bowers collection)

The Army ordered 250 L-6s from Interstate in April 1943. In addition to Interstate’s home plant in California, a second assembly facility in the midwest facilitated deliveries east of the Rocky Mountains.

Construction of military L-6s was finished in April 1945. By May, the war in Europe was over and victory in the Pacific was only months away. Surplus L-6s, sometimes called S-1-B1, entered general aviation after the war.

The National Museum of the U.S. Air Force displays an Interstate L-6. The museum’s website says the L-6 faced overheating problems that were partially remedied. The U.S. did not send its L-6s overseas, using them for liaison, utility, and training tasks domestically.

Thus ended Interstate’s adventure in aircraft design and construction. Rights, tooling, and inventory were sold to Harlow Aircraft in 1945. Subsequently Call Aircraft Co. (CallAir) bought the assets, later selling the Interstate rights again.

Rare at an air show, Kent Pietsch used this Interstate Cadet in an act that included landing atop a deck on a moving truck. This event was the Planes of Fame show at Chino, California, in May 2016. (Photo by Frederick A. Johnsen)

Interstate had another wartime claim to fame with its TDR twin-engine, optionally piloted drone for the U.S. Navy. But that’s a story for another day…

(The author is indebted to Joseph Juptner’s pioneering work in documenting type-certificated aircraft of the United States in his book series “U.S. Civil Aircraft.” For this article, Juptner’s Volume 8, covering Approved Type Certificates 701-800 was helpful.)

About Frederick Johnsen

Fred Johnsen is a product of the historical aviation scene in the Pacific Northwest. The author of numerous historical aviation books and articles, Fred was an Air Force historian and curator. Now he devotes his energies to coverage for GAN as well as the Airailimages YouTube Channel. You can reach him at [email protected].

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  1. Merton Erickson says

    November 1, 2026 at 5:45 pm

    Every time I have seen the Jelly Belly act over the years from Minot ND to Virginia Beach Va. it is Kent Piestch at the controls not brother Warren?

    Reply
    • Fred Johnsen says

      November 1, 2026 at 10:13 pm

      I believe you are correct! Kent Pietsch, not Warren in this case. My apologies to all.

      Reply
  2. Mike Taylor says

    October 19, 2026 at 7:49 am

    While overshadowed by Piper, Taylorcraft and Aeronca models of the era, the Interstate was a standout in many ways. All four OEMs enlisted L-bird versions of their 2-seaters during WWII. Speed of production saw Piper delivering the greatest number, with Interstate producing the fewest. Flying examples of all four are maintained by Alamo Liaison Squadron in San Antonio. Each model has its unique design characteristics and idiosyncrasies. Moreover, this class of warbird played a significant role during the conflict, despite is diminutive size. More on the L-birds can be found at als-cannonfield.com. Thank you to Frederick for bringing attention to this storied aircraft.

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    • Fred Johnsen says

      October 20, 2026 at 9:34 am

      You’re welcome, Mike! I appreciate your comments.

      Reply
  3. Alex Nelon says

    October 19, 2026 at 5:40 am

    See the July 19, 2018 issue of GAN for more information on the CallAir Cadet. Only 2 were made by the Call Aircraft Company, mostly from Interstate parts, as pre-production examples; the first bore s/n 1001 and N2923V, the second s/n 1002 and N2922V. The first was badged as an Interstate, the second as a CallAir following the purchase of the type certificate from Harlow. The TC was sold to William “Big Deal” Diehl of Anchorage AK and production continued as the Arctic Tern. A 4-place version called the Privateer was also developed. The TC was sold again to Bart Miller of Lebanon NH but a jig fell over onto him during transport, killing him and effectively ending the Interstate Cadet story.

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    • Alex Nelon says

      October 19, 2026 at 5:44 am

      More information on the CallAir involvement can be found at http://letsgofly.blogspot.com/2013/11

      Reply

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